Sunday, September 18, 2016

Taylar Cordova, the waiter complaining about tip gets dragged/defended at the same time.



When Taylar Cordova took to Facebook to complain about not getting any tip from the customers who spent $187.43 at her restaurant, reactions were mixed as some people felt she deserved no tip and others felt it was low to spend so much and not tip the waiter. 

The comments on her post are quite interesting. Read some after the page break.

Marcus Beljean For it to be that big of a order it had to had an automatic tip put in on the bill and or they tipped with cash

Kevin Reña What the? Its never been a mandatory to tip your servers. Serving your customers is part of your job and you get paid for it. If your salary is not enough to feed your family. Get another job. Its not the customers' fault you have low salary.

Marko Beltzer Pesonen I was at restaurant business 14 years. (Waiter, dj, bouncer etc..) so I know the meaning of tip. Ive seen Cheap a$$holes too many times but I kept smiling to them. Annoying ass hell but what can you do? But if you get service - leave a tip. Simple as fk. Hope you get more tips now. :)
- Marko from Finland

Yahve Guzman Funny how people complain about tips. I used to get paid 8$ hour but still made good on tips even if it was a small amount on one day but the other days always made enough. Working part time but still making tips as if I was working full time.

Zachery Kivett It's called get a real job don't rely on 2 to 5 dollar tips

Dalonda Page Y don't you go work at the McDonald's down the street then cuz clearly they make more than u crybaby ass girl ain't nobody tell u to work there

Jo Marie Salter I believe a tip should be included in the bill, even if it's 10-15% so the customer is paying for the service and can include extra based on their experience. I never leave less than 20%.. even if I have bad service, I'll still leave a couple of bucks. . But there aae people out there that give excellent service and get no tip. Tips are the servers paycheck. You know that when you walk into a restaurant. The $2/hr disappears when taxes come into play. A waitress's paycheck is often $0, so the tip is all they have to live on. I wouldn't selfishly eat out knowing I couldn't afford a tip. Grab some sandwiches and go have a picnic somewhere. It's more romantic and meaningful than a dinner out anyway

Janis Johns I think someone who can afford a 187$ meal they could afford to tip. The problems with the kitchen are not the waitress's fault if your service is good but you have problems from other aspects don't take it out on the server.

Cathy Semenzin Sorry, don't agree with. Leaving a tip is entirely the choice of the customer, the server is not automatically 'entitled' to one from every table. The fact that you are a single mother is YOUR choice, not that of any customer you serve. Maybe you gave lousy service or yes, the customer may be a complete jerk, but it's still his choice to tip you. And before you rant on about 'you don't what it's like to be a waitress and depend on your tips for income', oh yes I do. I waitressed for years as a struggling university student and yes, I know what it's like to get stiffed for no tip at a table that ran up a huge bill, quite a few times but guess what? I shrugged it off and got on with life, so should you, deal with it.

Stephen Kocyba This is crap!! You don't get rewarded for providing crap service and to say that 10% is a slap in the face is a JOKE. Get your head out of the coulds and come back to reality.

Mila Wood Sorry but since when did people have to tip? How about you blame your employer for giving you so little money or find a job where you can support your kid...



9 comments:

Anonymous said...

If you read her facebook page, it is very clear to understand why she would not be tipped - ATTITUDE. I don't believe was the case. I do believe that the person likely tipped cash. At any rate, this BS customer shaming is inappropriate. She clearly has an entitlement problem. I would have fired her.

Anonymous said...

If you look at this story on other sites, it is insane to see how polarizing this "tipping" situation is. So much so that people loose their whits and good judgment. The majority are starkly in one corner or the other. The people for tipping are just WOW....the name calling, and audacity to tell those who disagree with their point of view that they shouldn't eat out, can't afford to eat out, and my personal favorite should DIE. Are you serious? But these same people who result to such vile behavior are disillusioned to think that they are great people and at the very least better than non tippers. The extreme and hateful responses with personal attacks to people who don't share your view/belief do not put you in a great light at all. Re-evaluate people and BE BETTER. It seems like it is being more widely acceptable to throw civility out the widow...it's a sad time we live in.

Tipping is optional and based on service. Good service people rarely have an issue. If you do, then start with the man (woman) in the mirror!

Curtis Halford said...

The waitress may have deserved a tip or may not have. How are we to know? There are certainly some very trying customers in the world and there are some very cheap people who don't tip. If adequate service is provided an adequate tip should be left. There is truth to the saying that you shouldn't go to a sit-down service restaurant if you can't afford to pay the tip. We can only assume no tip was left in cash because the waitress is pissed about it, but the photo only proves no tip was left on the card.

Now, to the waitresses inaccurate and irrational claims. First, wait staff do earn lower than the minimum wage as their base pay. This is based on something called the tip credit. In Tampa, FL the tip credit is $3.02 per hour. The minimum wage is $8.05 /hr. This means the minimum a restaurant can pay wait staff in Florida anyway is $5.08. If the wait staff member does not make at least minimum wage via tips, then the restaurant is reponsible to ensure at least minimum wage is paid. So there was never an actual risk of her having to feed herself and her child on $5 an hour. The living wage in Tampa, FL is well above the minimum wage though, so and adult and child living on a minimum wage is not advisable either.

This brings us to her statement that a tip should be left no matter how poor the service. If she truly believes this, she is a foolish child and should probably seek other employment assuming she could find another job. The definition of a tip or gratuity is extra money given to a server for service or anticipated service. If you provide awful service you should expect to receive no tip or a very small one at that. I usually leave a very small tip to ensure the message is received that the tip was not an oversight. Regardless, a 10% tip may be a "slap in the face", or it may be a wake-up call that you are not on your game today and need to make improvements.

I don't know how long that party was at PF Chang's to run up a tab of $187.43, but at 10% the tip would have been 18.74 plus the 5.08 the restaurant paid per hour and would have worked out to just under $24 an hour (which is the living wage for 1 adult/1 child in Tampa). This assumes the waitress handled only one table for that entire hour. I find it unlikely that this was her only table and the only thing she did for an hour, but it is possible.

We have her side of the story. We don't have the customer's side. It is possible that she did a good job of taking care of that table and got screwed. It is also possible that she provided poor service or had the attitude portrayed in her letter of entitlement and it reflected in a bad tip. We can't know the truth of that situation. We do know that she tends toward exaggeration and hyperbole.

Anonymous said...

The waitress may have deserved a tip or may not have. How are we to know? There are certainly some very trying customers in the world and there are some very cheap people who don't tip. If adequate service is provided an adequate tip should be left. There is truth to the saying that you shouldn't go to a sit-down service restaurant if you can't afford to pay the tip. We can only assume no tip was left in cash because the waitress is pissed about it, but the photo only proves no tip was left on the card.

Now, to the waitresses inaccurate and irrational claims. First, wait staff do earn lower than the minimum wage as their base pay. This is based on something called the tip credit. In Tampa, FL the tip credit is $3.02 per hour. The minimum wage is $8.05 /hr. This means the minimum a restaurant can pay wait staff in Florida anyway is $5.08. If the wait staff member does not make at least minimum wage via tips, then the restaurant is reponsible to ensure at least minimum wage is paid. So there was never an actual risk of her having to feed herself and her child on $5 an hour. The living wage in Tampa, FL is well above the minimum wage though, so and adult and child living on a minimum wage is not advisable either.

This brings us to her statement that a tip should be left no matter how poor the service. If she truly believes this, she is a foolish child and should probably seek other employment assuming she could find another job. The definition of a tip or gratuity is extra money given to a server for service or anticipated service. If you provide awful service you should expect to receive no tip or a very small one at that. I usually leave a very small tip to ensure the message is received that the tip was not an oversight. Regardless, a 10% tip may be a "slap in the face", or it may be a wake-up call that you are not on your game today and need to make improvements.

I don't know how long that party was at PF Chang's to run up a tab of $187.43, but at 10% the tip would have been 18.74 plus the 5.08 the restaurant paid per hour and would have worked out to just under $24 an hour (which is the living wage for 1 adult/1 child in Tampa). This assumes the waitress handled only one table for that entire hour. I find it unlikely that this was her only table and the only thing she did for an hour, but it is possible.

We have her side of the story. We don't have the customer's side. It is possible that she did a good job of taking care of that table and got screwed. It is also possible that she provided poor service or had the attitude portrayed in her letter of entitlement and it reflected in a bad tip. We can't know the truth of that situation. We do know that she tends toward exaggeration and hyperbole.

Anonymous said...

For ALL of YOU people who say tipping is a choice, you are clearly NOT able to afford eating in a restaurant where someone is kind enough to bring you your food. As Taylar said, there are fast food restaurants for all of you ignorant people to carry your happy meal, yourself, to the table you are sitting at, or maybe even Ramen noodles at home is a better choice for you. You clearly do not have the knowledge or the WISDOM to comprehend the life style of someone who can truly afford eating at a restaurant where someone is kind enough to bring you your food, whether adequate service or not. This is a learned behavior of people who have etiquette, class, manners, and overall respect for others kind gestures. For the very small percentage of you readers, and I mean really small percent, who actually make it into the upper levels of society, whether in terms of financial status, higher education, or truly informed people of wisdom, you already understand what I am saying, BUT for all of you who continue to be naysayers, you will ALWAYS be ignorant, naive, uninformed, and rude. You naysayers should take a class on etiquette, and stop complaining about your sore private parts, it will do society good. GR170807

Wiz PC said...

True

Anonymous said...

she shouldn't be out riding horses if she can't afford to put clothes on her daughter.. telling us we shouldn't eat out at restaurants because we can't afford tips. maybe, she is even a bad waitress, and didn't deserve a tip?

in the past, there were people that would pump your gas for you. i'd gladly pick up my own food at a restaurant for a discount, or even have the option to not have a waiter/waitress. i don't like being waited on, and haven't eaten at restaurants in over 5 years. i'd rather cook for myself because the money is better spent.

also, i don't believe in tipping because of people like her. feeling entitled to what people have around them. but also, she is too ignorant to see that her overhead wages are syphoned out by the company's executives and she blames us. you know, the executives with private jets, and trips to spain or wherever they feel. she blames the people/customer for having a night out and not giving without a reason to give. so next time she sees a homeless person, i hope she gives to them cause otherwise she is a hypocrite.

i think every kid deserves fun, happiness, and going out. but maybe if she wore less make up, she could afford to give those things to her daughter? i have to give an take all the time. these last years, i haven't enjoyed anything but a cage called an apartment. do i blame other people? i blame myself for my choices.





Anonymous said...

If the restaurant owner cannot afford to pay his workers a living salary than he shouldn't be in business! Plate prices are already jacked up to the max therefore thw restaurant owner shouldn't pass the responsibility to customers. A sitting customer already paid income tax on the money that he is spending at your restaurant!
This tipping BS, is a very bad habit and the sad part is, that it is expected!

Jamiekins said...

Tipping is a choice but having been a sever and the son of restaurant owner as well when I was young I understand both sides of this. I must note, however, that if service is so bad that you are angry when you leave there is something to be said for that. If you give good service then you deserve a good tip. I know, I tip well when I go out. If I get great service
I give people a great tip even more than 20% sometimes if they were very good.
On the other hand, if your service is really bad and you upset people out trying to have a good time and you seem to annoy them somehow, then you shouldn't be surprised
when you don't get a tip, I generally get really great service. I try to have fun with my servers and make it a great time, after all, your out and obviously trying to have some fun, and a good time. When this subject comes up occasionally I look at both sides.
If a server is snotty and rude or just gives very bad service they shouldn't expect a tip.
When it hurts is when you give great service and they still don't tip you.
So there's the issue, and I do understand both sides of this.